2:40 Cheltenham

2m 7f 212y

Going - Good to soft-soft in places

  • Racing Post Racing Post Verdict

While Jeriko Du Reponet has attracted the ante-post interest and has headgear for the first time, there are rather more appealing options at longer prices. Preference is for KARL DES TOURELLES, a lightly raced youngster who quickly did enough to justify a position near the top of the weights but still brings notable potential. Win Some Lose Some (second choice), Will The Wise and D Art D Art are among several other Irish youngsters who should be capable of better, while Long Draw and One Big Bang may emerge best of the British.[Richard Austen]

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10
Runner Silk Jeriko Du Reponet
144
N De Boinville/ N J Henderson
(32) Form: 1P-P53 Age: 6 Weight: 11-6
Spotlight
 9/2  11/2 5/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Big reputation going into this season but unsettled in the preliminaries when pulled up on seasonal/chase debut; also favourite for handicap hurdles at Newbury (2m) and Exeter (2m7f) on his two starts since, coming up short but there has been some renewed promise from off the pace; wears headgear first time and he's been the ante-post favourite.
4
Runner Silk Win Some Lose Some
138
M P Walsh/ P Roche
(75) Form: 310141 Age: 6 Weight: 11-9
Distance Winner Spotlight
 6/1  15/2 7/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  All nine starts over hurdles, winning four; firmly on an upward curve and he won with more authority than the bare result suggests in 20-runner qualifier at Leopardstown (yielding) over Christmas last time, produced to lead at the last on step up to 2m7f; has a much higher mark for the Final but clear potential too and he's on the shortlist.
13
Runner Silk Will The Wise
140
K M Donoghue/ G P Cromwell
(18) Form: 126311 Age: 6 Weight: 11-5
Distance Winner Spotlight
 7/1  5/1 7/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Point/bumper winner who went hurdling in November; won a maiden at Punchestown (2m6f, soft) in January and asserted late on in a right slog against Maxi Mac Gold for the 19-runner Naas qualifier (2m7f, heavy) 18 days ago; at such an early stage in his career, he must be open to further progress.
7
Runner Silk D Art D Art
140
Tiernan Power Roche/ T Cooper
(167) Form: 0-0132 Age: 6 Weight: 11-7
Spotlight
 9/1  11/1 10/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Got up late on at Punchestown (2m4f, good to yielding) in October and made good late headway for third of 23 at Navan (2m6f, yielding) next time; close call at Carlisle (upped to 3m1f, soft) in December when last seen confirms that this 6yo brings an encouraging progressive profile.
8
Runner Silk Feet Of A Dancer
140
S F O'keeffe/ P Nolan
(75) Form: 3-1333 Age: 6 Weight: 11-7
Spotlight
 15/2  9/1 10/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  4-11, all over hurdles; good third of 20 at Leopardstown (2m7f, yielding) at Christmas when last seen, where she raced a bit freely and did not see it out after leading approaching the final flight; there's a bit to prove at this new trip, therefore, but she's not discounted for a respected stable which had a comfortable win in this race in 2021 with a mare at very similar stage of her career.
2
Runner Silk Karl Des Tourelles
139
B Hayes/ P Fenton
(167) Form: 2-7923 Age: 5 Weight: 11-10
Spotlight
 16/1  18/1 16/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  All starts on softer than good; 100-1 winner of a maiden hurdle on debut last February; runner-up in Grade 2 novice in April and stayed on well when runner-up in the Punchestown qualifier (3m, soft) on handicap debut in November; after a creditable 2m4f run at Christmas, this promising youngster looks set to resume improvement on today's step back up in trip.
9
Runner Silk Lucky Lyreen
139
Sam Ewing/ G Elliott
(18) Form: -P0863 Age: 7 Weight: 11-6
Distance Winner Spotlight
 16/1  18/1 16/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Won twice last term; this second season hurdling has seen best form in big-field handicaps on testing ground over 3m and 2m7f on his last two outings, claimer ridden in both and taking third on latest to Will The Wise and Maxi Mac Gold at Naas; needs further improvement but going the right way.
11
Runner Silk Patter Merchant
140
J W Kennedy/ G Elliott
(18) Form: 135454 Age: 6 Weight: 11-5
Spotlight
 12/1  14/1 16/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Point/bumper winner who was sent hurdling in only October, winning at first attempt; two fourths and a fifth when sent handicapping (claimer ridden) on last three outings, against some of today's rivals when upped to 3m/2m7f in the mud with big fields at Leopardstown and Naas on last two occasions; should retain potential and Jack Kennedy takes over.
14
Runner Silk One Big Bang
144
Jamie Brace/ James Owen
(26) Form: -22461 Age: 7 Weight: 11-4
Distance Winner Spotlight
 16/1  18/1 16/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Has good record for claiming riders; trying headgear seemingly had a negative effect on penultimate outing but he bounced back with a career best to win the Haydock qualifier (3m1f, good to soft) last month from Doddiethegreat; did it quite tidily too, so could be a player despite 7lb rise.
20
Runner Silk Catch Him Derry
141
Harry Skelton/ D Skelton
(32) Form: 1-1P61 Age: 7 Weight: 11-0
Distance Winner Spotlight
 12/1  14/1 16/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  4-7 in handicaps, the wins including his first and latest of four starts this term; underperformed on New Year's Day on his sole start here but roared back with a new high when clearcut winner of the Exeter qualifier (2m7f, good to soft); 6lb higher this time but overall he's been progressive.
5
Runner Silk Harbour Lake
143
Tom Cannon/ A King
(106) Form: 52-312 Age: 9 Weight: 11-8
Distance Winner Spotlight
 22/1  20/1 18/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Placed on his only two runs at Cheltenham, latterly when second over C&D (good) last April; Aintree qualifier (3m, good) after five months off saw him end a two-year losing spell; followed that with a close second to Supreme Gift at Market Rasen later in November, so he's never been better but he is also on a career-high mark which requires further improvement.
12
Runner Silk Henri The Second
149
H Cobden/ P F Nicholls
(40) Form: /4-412 Age: 8 Weight: 11-5
Distance Winner Spotlight
 20/1  22/1 20/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Took a Grade 2 novice (soft) in 2022 and stormed home well clear when upped to an extended 2m7f for a handicap back at Sandown (heavy) in December this term; found a promising one much too good over that same C&D (heavy) last time but beat the rest; second in a novice on good going in 2023 but today's likely move away from the mud asks the question.
18
Runner Silk Shanagh Bob
145
Paul O'brien/ N J Henderson
(33) Form: 4-5525 Age: 7 Weight: 11-2
Course and Distance Winner Spotlight
 20/1  22/1 20/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Won Grade 2 novice hurdle at Cheltenham (3m, soft) in December 2023; failed to shine over fences before he reverted to hurdles at Huntingdon (3m1f, soft) and finished second in first-time cheekpieces; being brought out for a lesser show 16 days later is a concern, notwithstanding the inadequate 2m5f, but the headgear returns today and he may have more to offer as a stayer.
25
Runner Silk Long Draw
143
Reserve 1/ O Murphy
(77) Form: 222214 Age: 6 Weight: 10-12
Course and Distance Winner Spotlight
 20/1  22/1 20/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Reserve; runner-up four times in a row on good ground before winning smoothly by 5l with waiting tactics at Cheltenham (upped to 3m, good to soft) in December; creditable fourth off this 7lb higher mark at Wincanton just 13 days later saw him qualify for this; second-season hurdler (not alone in this field) who may well resume improvement for his in-form yard.
15
Runner Silk Super Survivor
144
G Sheehan/ Jamie Snowden
(49) Form: 82-311 Age: 9 Weight: 11-2
Distance Winner Spotlight
 22/1  25/1 22/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Back hurdling (from chasing) for last four starts and impressively resurgent this winter, winning at Doncaster (extended 3m, good to soft) and Huntingdon (3m1f, soft; from Shanagh Bob); latest 6lb rise takes him to almost his career-high mark, however.
19
Runner Silk Doddiethegreat
148
B S Hughes/ N J Henderson
(26) Form: 7-5PP2 Age: 9 Weight: 11-2
Spotlight
 16/1  18/1 22/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Staying-on fourth off 1lb higher in top handicap at Newbury (2m, heavy) last February; 12th in the Coral Cup next time initiated a most disappointing sequence but he surged back near his best when second to One Big Bang at Haydock on latest outing, when trying 3m, cheekpieces and Brian Hughes all for the first time; now has first-time tongue-tie as well.
17
Runner Silk Maxi Mac Gold
139
S W Flanagan/ P Nolan
(18) Form: 430482 Age: 6 Weight: 11-2
Distance Winner Spotlight
 20/1  22/1 25/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Sole win (11 races) was a 3m maiden on good ground last May; rather inconsistent since but he's been fourth and second in big-field handicaps on two of his last three starts, latterly when knuckling down well with second-time blinkers in his slog against Will The Wise at Naas (2m7f, heavy) 18 days ago; same respected stable as Feet Of A Dancer and he's also just a 6yo.
3
Runner Silk Bugise Seagull
140
David Bass/ C E Longsdon
(39) Form: 3-2P32 Age: 7 Weight: 11-10
Spotlight
 22/1  25/1 28/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  12l third in Grade 1 novice hurdle at Aintree (2m4f) last April; back from chasing for 3m handicap hurdles on last two outings, always close up when second of 11 at Musselburgh (again good to soft) last time; up 2lb but, in this second season under rules, no shock if he has more to give.
22
Runner Silk Zain Nights
144
Charlie Deutsch/ L Wadham
(537) Form: -13P84 Age: 6 Weight: 10-13
Course and Distance Winner Spotlight
 25/1  33/1 28/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Won three in a row last spring and the second of those was over C&D; good third back at Cheltenham (again 3m on good) in October and back to form at Huntingdon (soft) latest, but he now needs to hit a new level.
21
Runner Silk Guard The Moon
145
Sam Twiston-Davies/ N A Twiston-Davies
(19) Form: -11228 Age: 7 Weight: 10-13
Distance Winner Spotlight
 25/1  28/1 33/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Won handicap debut at Warwick (2m5f) in October, before second at Aintree (3m) and Newbury (2m4f); those improved efforts were on good or good to soft, but he showed worryingly little when a flop on soft ground 19 days ago after 12 weeks off; relatively early days.
1
Runner Silk Thomas Mor
142
Sean Houlihan/ P Hobbs & J White
(47) Form: P15/14 Age: 8 Weight: 12-0
Distance Winner Spotlight
 40/1  50/1 40/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  650 days off before taking the Wincanton qualifier (3m1f, good to soft; 5lb higher today) in tidy style at Christmas, always prominent; chase debut one month later wasn't great but he's respected on the former run.
6
Runner Silk Supreme Gift
145
Stan Sheppard/ H D Daly
(40) Form: 3-7150 Age: 8 Weight: 11-7
Distance Winner Spotlight
 40/1  50/1 40/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Has run creditably over C&D on good; won the qualifier at Market Rasen (soft) in November, rallying to regain the lead from Harbour Lake; out of form at Kempton and Leopardstown since, which sees blinkers go on today instead of a visor; needs a career best.
23
Runner Silk Idem
141
P W Wadge/ Miss Lucinda V Russell
(39) Form: 128R14 Age: 7 Weight: 10-13
Spotlight
 40/1  50/1 40/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Well beaten when refusing in November but followed that with a tidy win at Kelso (extended 2m6f, good to soft) in December; last three of his four wins have been at that track; good, staying-on fourth in the Musselburgh qualifier (3m, good to soft) latest outing and may have something more in the tank.
16
Runner Silk J'Ai Froid
143
Harry Reed/ L Morgan
(19) Form: 2148-1 Age: 12 Weight: 11-2
Distance Winner Spotlight
 40/1 50/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  12yo returning from 315 days off when 33-1 at Chepstow (3m, soft) 19 days ago but he had the call from approaching the final flight; back up 5lb in this hot race, he needs to find best form since his peak year of 2021.
24
Runner Silk American Sniper
148
Jack Tudor/ D Pipe
(29) Form: 091636 Age: 7 Weight: 10-9
Course Winner Spotlight
 40/1 50/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Sometimes front-runs; won in a big field over 2m5f here in November 2023; none too consistent since, taking a four-runner race at Newbury (3m, good; 4lb higher today) in November this term but there are safer options.
26
Runner Silk Up For Parol
146
Reserve 2/ Jamie Snowden
(33) Form: 23-215 Age: 9 Weight: 10-12
Distance Winner Spotlight
 40/1 50/1 SP
Racing Post Logo   Spotlight :  Reserve; frequently competitive but Ffos Las (3m, soft) in January was his first actual win since December 2021; raced apart (on the inner) from the others for much of that race, which may have played some role, and he was below form off this 6lb higher mark at Newbury four weeks later; not the percentage call.
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1 Runner Silk
Thomas Mor v Karl Des Tourelles
Sean Houlihan/ P Hobbs & J White B Hayes/ P Fenton
Form: P15/14 Age: 8 Weight: 12-0 Form: 2-7923 Age: 5 Weight: 11-10
Runner Silk 2
1 Runner Silk
Thomas Mor v Karl Des Tourelles
Sean Houlihan/ P Hobbs & J White B Hayes/ P Fenton
Form: P15/14 Age: 8 Weight: 12-0 Form: 2-7923 Age: 5 Weight: 11-10
Runner Silk 2
1 Runner Silk
Thomas Mor v Karl Des Tourelles
Sean Houlihan/ P Hobbs & J White B Hayes/ P Fenton
Form: P15/14 Age: 8 Weight: 12-0 Form: 2-7923 Age: 5 Weight: 11-10
Runner Silk 2
1 Runner Silk
Thomas Mor v Karl Des Tourelles
Sean Houlihan/ P Hobbs & J White B Hayes/ P Fenton
Form: P15/14 Age: 8 Weight: 12-0 Form: 2-7923 Age: 5 Weight: 11-10
Runner Silk 2
1 Runner Silk
Thomas Mor v Karl Des Tourelles
Sean Houlihan/ P Hobbs & J White B Hayes/ P Fenton
Form: P15/14 Age: 8 Weight: 12-0 Form: 2-7923 Age: 5 Weight: 11-10
Runner Silk 2
1 Runner Silk
Thomas Mor v Karl Des Tourelles
Sean Houlihan/ P Hobbs & J White B Hayes/ P Fenton
Form: P15/14 Age: 8 Weight: 12-0 Form: 2-7923 Age: 5 Weight: 11-10
Runner Silk 2
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1 Thomas Mor 40/1   16/1 Karl Des Tourelles 2
3 Bugise Seagull 28/1   7/1 Win Some Lose Some 4
5 Harbour Lake 18/1   40/1 Supreme Gift 6
7 D Art D Art 10/1   10/1 Feet Of A Dancer 8
9 Lucky Lyreen 16/1   5/1 Jeriko Du Reponet 10
11 Patter Merchant 16/1   20/1 Henri The Second 12
13 Will The Wise 7/1   16/1 One Big Bang 14
15 Super Survivor 22/1   50/1 J'Ai Froid 16
17 Maxi Mac Gold 25/1   20/1 Shanagh Bob 18
19 Doddiethegreat 22/1   16/1 Catch Him Derry 20
21 Guard The Moon 33/1   28/1 Zain Nights 22
23 Idem 40/1   50/1 American Sniper 24
25 Long Draw 20/1   50/1 Up For Parol 26

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